Digg shuts down again — succumb to bots!
Well, that was fast. Digg only just relaunched — but now will be shutting down because they couldn't fend off the SEO bots:
When the Digg beta launched, we immediately noticed posts from SEO spammers noting that Digg still carried meaningful Google link authority. Within hours, we got a taste of what we'd only heard rumors about. The internet is now populated, in meaningful part, by sophisticated AI agents and automated accounts. We knew bots were part of the landscape, but we didn't appreciate the scale, sophistication, or speed at which they'd find us. We banned tens of thousands of accounts. We deployed internal tooling and industry-standard external vendors. None of it was enough. When you can't trust that the votes, the comments, and the engagement you're seeing are real, you've lost the foundation a community platform is built on.
This isn't just a Digg problem. It's an internet problem. But it hit us harder because trust is the product.
This is a problem we're of course familiar with on Product Hunt, and is something the team is working on every day.
The other problem they identified is how hard it is to start a new social platform today:
We underestimated the gravitational pull of existing platforms. Network effects aren't just a moat, they're a wall. The loyalty users have to the communities they've already built elsewhere is profound. Getting people to move is a hard enough problem. Getting them to move and bring their people with them is something else entirely.
Thankfully, Product Hunt has been running since 2014. While it has pursued a few trends over the years, it has maintained a consistent core purpose and audience.
I'm curious to see what might happen with Digg next, if this is going to be @kevinrose's new full time focus, just as fellow True Ventures colleague Toni Schneider is taking over as interim CEO at Bluesky.



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It's been a good long time since I was Google's Search Evangelist, but it looks like NOFOLLOW and similar options (still) would have basically solved Digg's SEO problem, so I'm pretty confused about the above statement.
Unless you were Jack Dorsey, starting an SM platform in this day and age would be incredibly difficult, if not almost impossible. Even Meta, which owns the 2 biggest on the planet, still couldn't get anyone to care about Threads or migrate over. If you could focus on some very niche subculture or subcommunity, it would be easier, but then the tradeoff is the lack of scalability and networks affects...the good old Catch-22.
@jdsalbego last I read, Threads had more 7 day actives (of real people) than Twitter did. Even if that's not fully accurate, I use Threads regularly and it seems rather active to me.
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Not gonna lie, I am fed up with that bot problem.
Companies set restrictions, e.g. trying to detect "automated" behaviour and ban users.
That's fair. But these detectors are not 100% for this purpose.
Take LinkedIn, for example. If you type manually fairly quickly and spend about 2 hours a day on the platform, you can contribute a lot of comments in a short time and be labelled as a bot.
This is my case – this week, my account was restricted 2 times (for 48 hours and now for 72 hours, still waiting until Sunday)... On the other hand, at least, I can have a digital detox :D
@busmark_w_nika I can understand LinkedIn's approach. I can't fathom many humans willingly spending 2 hours a day on that platform. I tend to ick out after about 4.2 minutes of seeing the umpteenth "humbled, proud, grateful" missive.
Bummer! I signed up about 3 days ago, actually invested some time to get set up and trying it out... Set some reminders to got back... Well, yesterday was the first reminder and the site was already gone...
F-ing bots... and it's only going to get worst...