Do you think Grokipedia has a real chance to succeed and surpass Wikipedia?
Elon Musk was extremely frustrated that Wikipedia couldn’t be manipulated, and he even offered $1 billion if they renamed it to “d*ckipedia.”
Since that didn’t work out, he’s now trying to build his own platform for gathering information – claiming that Wikipedia is “hopelessly biased,” and that left-leaning editors influence its content.
Do you think creating Grokipedia makes sense, especially considering how much Elon Musk seems to want control over information? What's your opinion on this?
I've heard that a lot of people turn to Grok for information, and I personally use Grok, but I don't really like the person behind it, who has quite strange opinions and a way of expressing himself.
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I know that Wikipedia has documented instances where pages about (especially) individuals or events have emphasized negative details—some accurate, others not—and when new developments provide a more positive perspective on those 'negative details', or that show the 'negative details' are false, and people have tried to add/update the page with those indisputable facts (e.g. as indisputable as actual court orders or court decisions), those editors have faced rejections or even bans on Wikipedia. So the negative views on the page remain, providing a distorted view on the person/situation.
Grokipedia could offer a different approach to address such issues. How good it will be, however, remains to be seen.
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@john_wern Is Wikipedia really so negative? Like yeah, we had some "case" with moderators and they voted "vox populi" about removing stuff :D
@busmark_w_nika Oh, I didn't imply any specific case. I have just heard from time to another instances where this is the case, and in those instance nobody seemed to be permitted to change anything. I just tried to generalize for all cases I'd heard about.
For e.g. math or physics or similar, I've heard no such issue; only relating to people/events.
I just hope we get a truly democratized system: Nobody should be able to prevent anyone from editing.
i don't think people really tun to wikipedia as their major source of information these days. but i don't think grokpedia would be any different too.
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@mac_divine LLMs do.
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@mac_divine I still use Wikipedia and many LLMs too. (besides Reddit)
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Didn't find info about how it's supposed to work exactly, so let's wait and see.
However, I certainly don't trust Elon to build an objective source of information...
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@konrad_sx He is not certainly objective, especially supporting one specific party during elections.
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So… we’re moving from free editing to freedom of Elon?
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@abod_rehman Looks like that :D
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@shihangw Grok will be biased only towards information that Elon wants to be in aether.
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This might be a bit difficult.
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@new_user_730378091d They already rolled out so I will be watching closely the outcome.
I believe Grokipedia is unnecessary. Waste of his money maybe because we no longer have research-oriented writers like the earlier days. Now there's barely anyone who visits a library, reads a thesis/journal, and comes back to write on Wiki.
@busmark_w_nika, but I agree with Elon's take on Wikipedia...(not the renaming part :D)
Biased platform, yes. And I say this because I was an editor there. Tough time...
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@ashok_nayak Say, what was happening at Wikipedia :D open up :D
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@ashok_nayak OK, so let's then keep it in secret :D
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It makes sense for Elon to do it because who controls the information controls the spice, and Elon wants all roads to go through his empire, just like Zuck.
It's a waste of time and resources from humanity's perspective though.
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@chrismessina I think he (his money) is powerful enough to get what he wants.
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Good question, Nika. Competition is fine, but surpassing Wikipedia is tough. I’d judge Grokipedia on open licensing, transparent edits, strong sourcing, independent governance, diverse editors. If those exist, trust can grow beyond the founder.
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@alexcloudstar Grokipedia with independent governance (with Elon?) That's sci-fi. :D
Maybe. The output would need to be grounded on human generated information/analysis (historical books, encyclopedias) to have any chance of exceeding quality of info on Wikipedia. The good news is that all the articles already cite their sources, so it'd be pretty straightforward to implement a "deep research" with those sources as the root.
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@vsteppp True, so we need more data from written books and the history to outperform Wikipedia, but that's sounds quite sci-fi :D