Can you talk about the infrastructure? Where is it hosted so we can understand the #privacy and security issues? Clubhouse is hosted on Chinese infrastructure that the government has access to from what Ben Thompson at Stratechery says in his latest post.
@katen_ai We are currently hosting the backend in the Frankfurt (Germany) datacenter on DigitalOcean. All discussions so far are end to end encrypted between the people knowing the room url. Definitely no Chinese infrastructure involved.
Additionally it is really easy to host an instance yourself. Working on documenting that better.
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@doublemalt - Thanks! Good to hear. I haven't tried it yet. Would like to understand on how you use iPhone contacts to build out the invites :-)
No native iOS (not a biggie).
Scheduling and invites and profile for trust are key though
Still, I'm glad to see this as an alternative.
@katen_ai Scheduling is on our radar and we are thinking a lot how to to create an easy enough distributed profile verification so you can connect your twitter profile. Will keep you posted.
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It's a really cool product!
I'm just curious about the log policy. Does the Jam server store our conversations?
If so,
1) how long will it keep?
2) what's the purpose? To sell the audio data and advertise? To provide to the police or court if requested?
@solzard_ Thanks for trying it out and great that you like it!
Regarding your questions:
The server just mediates a connection between the clients, it does not have access to the decrypted audio streams. We might want to change that to support larger audiences, but even then we will take pains to not store anything persistently on the server.
We really just wanted to demonstrate how easy it is to create something with most of the benefits of Clubhouse but without preying on users' data and privacy.
Also it is easy to host a jam instance yourself and we're currently working on the documentation for that.
Awesome idea and really impressive you launched Jam in less than 2 weeks. Interested to see how events / conferences will use something like this to connect to the audience.
@fstanev thanks a lot! same here, super excited about that, especially as participant, I want to see more micro conferences and barcamps in audio spaces, can't wait :))
Love the concept of creating an open source version of a product that is about to be copied by everyone.
Also, impressed how well it works on my browsers, great stuff
Great idea & love the name:) It's awesome that you directly open-sourced it, I can also see this running as a successful one-click service in the future.
@toshiyori thanks a lot, great to see you here! we'll definitely work on making hosting/deploying super smooth even if you just briefly want to spin a Jam up for a special occasion
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