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Chris Messina

Spirit - The animation tool for the web.

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Spirit Studio is an animation tool that helps designers and developers creating and managing their animations real time in the browser.

✔︎ Super easy to use

✔︎ Live edit animations directly on your web page

✔︎ Animate SVG/HTML

✔︎ Timeline editor

✔︎ Import/export JSON and play animations in production using the Web Player

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Gianmarco Simone
Disappointing that there's no way to try it before subscribing :(
Patrick Brouwer
Maker
@gsimone We're currently working on a trial version, will be available soon!
Phuong Mark
@patrickbrouwer Love it. Hope to try it soon
Diego G Marignac 🇦🇷
@gsimone @patrickbrouwer start collecting emails of interested people for that!
Patrick Brouwer
Maker
@gsimone start your trial at https://spiritapp.io/pricing 🙌
Abinash Mohanty
@gsimone give Keyshape a try and you won't regret. Best part is it's only around $30 and one time purchase https://www.keyshapeapp.com/
Bader Bouta

A great tool for animators, designers and creative developers out there.

I would quickly change the business model or pricing especially in your early stages if you want to avoid losing tons of potential customers, it's either that, or it's waiting for one of the big boys to completely rip off your concept and have it incorporated in their software suite... in fact, I think It's going to be a simple matter of time before that happens, so your competitive edge is probably going to your first mover advantage that you have now.

Not a lot of people are going to pay 180 dollars for a half feature that costs more than a TWO year subscription of SketchApp or even the Adobe Creative Suit.

Edit: Im almost a 100% sure Airbnb is going to add this feature to their already free 'Lottie' design tool... so it's indeed a matter of time. For anyone interested: https://airbnb.design/lottie/

Pros:

Great tool for creatives.

Cons:

Insane price and/or broken business model.

Brett Tomes
Agreed, completely put off by pricing structure.
Rudolf Olah
it looks like the pricing is now $12/month or $144/year? That isn't much if this is a tool you're using everyday. Get the company to pay for it. edit: Also, if Airbnb is going to add that feature, they've already paid the price for the development for their "free" tool.
Daniel Eitam
The product looks great! Although, its overpriced.
Patrick Brouwer
Maker
@dadatalks It's definitely worth it!
Rudolf Olah
@dadatalks @patrickbrouwer Don't listen to all of these naysayers; try out subscription-based pricing and you can always lower the price or add more value to make the price worthwhile. Most of these people complaining about price wouldn't *ever* pay for your product even if it was $0/month, they would try the trial and then move on to the next flavour of the month product on ProductHunt.
Patrick Brouwer
Maker
@dadatalks @rudolfolah Thank you for your kind words Rudolf. I truly believe in Spirit and think it's definitely worthwhile and absolutely not overpriced. However, it's true we lack on (video) tutorials, examples and more. Those are in development. Also the trial version is something we're working on and will be available soon. Thanks!
Dean Brady
@dadatalks @patrickbrouwer @rudolfolah That's a very narrow opinion. Price high now and lower later? And add features later? That's a path to no-users IMO. The tried and true method is give a good discount to those that jump on early. They will have to deal with some bumps, beta testing, and less features but they got the deal so they'll accept it. Charge the higher price later when you have all the kinks out and features that are worth it. I'm sure you put a ton of time/effort into the tool but that unfortunately doesn't translate into pricing. The market decides value. $99/Year for SketchApp, Tumult Hype Pro $99 (one time), and others are what you are being compared to and its a value proposition. Even if those tools aren't direct competitors, if I look at the value I get out of SketchApp for $99/yr vs $144/yr for SpiritApp, I can't justify it. I pay $60/month for Adobe CC and get EVERYTHING. Amazing value. IMO, you can't look at this type of tool from a "what I think its worth" perspective but need to look at the alternatives out there (direct and indirect competitors) and how you compare in value. A one-time free for $49 (maybe even $69-79) and I'm more interested. I think you also need to consider the use case. The number of people that would buy this and use it daily or multiple times a week is much smaller than the group that may use it once a month (or less). Is it better to get 10x (or more) the users, at a lower price where the value/cost is acceptable? Or charge the $144/yr and only attract those that will use it often enough to justify the price? Just some transparent and hopefully constructive feedback...
Seán Marsh ✌️
@dadatalks @patrickbrouwer I'd add to this that I'm generally time poor, so 7 day trails are nowhere near long enough... I generally look for limited free accounts that showed me what an app can do, which will then convince me to start paying for more features.
Sadok Cervantes R.
I've been waiting for this since 2016 when you announced it, a GSAP timeline editor is very much needed, but I am super disappointed that you chose a subscription-based model just for the sake of making more money. What happened to the one-time fee for a year worth of updates and free use? This really makes no sense to pay on a monthly basis since I'm not using your resources all the time, it's not like it's cloud based or anything. Very disappointed.
Sadok Cervantes R.
And the sad thing is I'm not the only one with these thoughts, and you are playing deaf with people that would be passionate users of this product.
Patrick Brouwer
Maker
@sadokx Sorry to hear you’re not happy with the pricing. I really think Spirit is definitely worth it, as it is a game changer in the field of web animation. Besides, with a subscription-based model you’ll enjoy all the new features once they come out. There are some pretty cool features on the roadmap that will be available soon!
G G
Too expensive, everyone has subscription greed. $12 a month. Get Tumult Hype for a one time fee, does the same and so much more.
Dan Dan
Feedback: This looks good, I can't confirm if it's good cause I haven't tried it. I have no desire to try it because of your home page. It doesn't backup it's claims with evidence (in this case a demo or more specific information). It says cute things like "Super Powers" and "Intuitive and Easy" but it doesn't do anything to show how intuitive and easy it is. It says it has a timeline editor. but no images of it. Wouldn't that be important? It seems like nowadays we want people to sign up first and delete later. It's frustrating to see an application landing page with so little details about how it works or what it does. Yes you could just download the application and try it... just to be greeted with a license purchase screen!
Patrick Brouwer
Maker
@tostartafire Hi Dan, while we're working on a trial, video tutorials and examples you can see what others create, like https://twitter.com/timokuilder/.... It's absolutely not our intention to lock anyone into the app. We're in the stage of an early launch and we'll add all the missing parts soon! Thanks
Dean Brady

Want to love this but you need a trial version or at least a lot more demos videos. And as many have already called out, make the pricing affordable for what you are competing against.

Offer some intro price or free version with a watermark or something. Add some templates or something to get people started.

Hope you listen to the community feedback, there is an interest...

Pros:

Looks promising

Cons:

Too expensive, no trial, requires player

Alex White
Looks very cool, but I'm not about to pay a subscription fee for this (especially when it costs more per month than Setapp!)
Dean Brady
@alexwhitedev Yeah I forgot about SetApp! Best - Deal - Ever!
Elijah Murray
Really wish I could watch a video tutorial to better understand the product, without having to read through the Getting Started materials.
Patrick Brouwer
Maker
@elijahmurray You're absolutely right, we're working on examples, tutorials and screencasts. Sign up for our newsletter and we'll notify you with new content, thanks!
Elijah Murray
@patrickbrouwer Awesome! Looking forward to it.
Jovis Joseph Aloor
For such a product there must be tons of video content to back its claims. At least you should have a video showing all those cool features in action. Now i have to download the whole stuff to get to know what it is. But don't worry about me. i'll definitely give it a spin. I've already tried out HAIKU and it had all the bells and whistles but at the end of the day it felt very clunky and it was very difficult to create an animation in it. I hope this to be my goto tool for creating micro interactions
Jovis Joseph Aloor
WTH... you need to have a paid license to just try it out !!. I appreciate your confidence in your product. But lets just face the reality, today there are a ton of design tools releasing daily and on what basis should I spend that kind of money just based on your claims. You guys should've at least given a 15 day trial. As a SASS owner myself i can imagine why you guys took this route, but especially this market is really tough. You guys should rethink about your pricing. (btw I think the your annual pricing model is reasonable. But without a free trial period it doesn't makes sense)
Dean Brady
@jovisjoseph He'll reply that they have a trail in the works but seriously, if it wasn't ready, why launch? I paid for the year just to give it a try and already am asking for a refund. Too many options out there.
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