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Popcorn Time in your browser. Stream movies for free.

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Popcorn Time in your browser. Stream movies for free.

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I'm confused on the legality of this...is it legal because the server has the torrent and not the viewer? Sorry if this is obvious.

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11yr ago

Laundromatch

@samchristie Similarly confused.

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11yr ago

Strikingly

@samchristie No one said it was legal. The law discriminates on the basis of what you are downloading. If you are downloading non-copyrighted material, then use of these sites is entirely legal. In the case of copyrighted data, downloading is illegal. If you illegally downloaded copyrighted material, there is almost certainly nothing to worry about. Tens of millions of people are downloading items from torrent sites every day with no repercussions, but only a few tens of thousands have been prosecuted over the last decade. The odds are in your favor. However, there are legal hazards. Some rare files are bait intentionally placed there by companies who hope to catch you in the act. They monitor the IP addresses of anyone who downloads said bait and then notify the ISPs of the downloaders. ISPs take no legal action here, but they will send you a (usually) polite warning. The real sharks are organizations like the MPAA or the RIAA. Luckily, it is not legally easy for these people to get ISPs to disclose your downloading habits. The MPAA and RIAA have to jump through a variety of legal hoops to get your identity. For efficiency, they prefer to do this to a few thousand people at a time, most of those will be offered settlements in the range of thousands of dollars. Thankfully, there are methods that you can research for obscuring your IP address. Since ISPs need the illegality of the download to be brought to their attention in the first place, using software that hides your IP (like a VPN) from the organizations watching downloaders will make piracy much safer for you. Source: Quora

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11yr ago

@irvingtorresyc I've just never seen an illegal product on PH so I was just confused

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11yr ago

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Maker

@samchristie I've seen many. My MovBucket, Popcorn in Your Browser (got 1200+ votes), the original Popcorn Time, isoPlex...

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11yr ago

@samchristie There are numerous products on PH (especially music apps) that violate the TOS of the APIs they rely on (mostly Spotify and SoundCloud APIs) and facilitate copyright infringement; especially when allowing user generated video content. I spend my days working with founders to help them "legitimize" their apps/websites/platforms with the proper license deals and copyright protection tools.

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11yr ago

I'm not comfortable using this product and I'm a bit disappointed PH allows these types of products. Many people here are app developers who charge money for their work. I wonder how you'd feel if someone cracked your app and made it easily available for free to the world? All your hard work, which is fair that you'd be compensated for, distributed for free. How can you use, or condone, this type of theivery? I know many will say "if you don't like it then don't use it", and that's fair; I won't. But think about the people you're stealing from. Not the big stars, directors, and producers, but the thousands of others who feed their families on the money residuals/fees charged to legitimate viewers. If you use this product, and others here that are blatantly illegal, you have no right to charge anyone any money for your work. It's that simple.

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11yr ago

Flow

@fbara I always love the moral justification that arises around piracy. There's always lots of fascinating things said, often interesting insites into how ecosystems work and valid complaints about how existing business models work... but never a clear response to why it's ok to take something from creators without compensating them in the way they've asked to be compensated.

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11yr ago

Weld

@fbara I've been paying spotify for years. Give me a similar service for movies and I'll pay up faster than you can say Popcorn,

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11yr ago

@fbara If we stay on this topic - movies/tvshows- then no, the only one's benefiting from this are directors, actors, etc = movie industry. Once that industry stops treating their customers as if the're sheeps that's when people will stop pirate stuff. Start a tv show in US, then ONLY after it's available on dvd ship it to other countries; Oh and don't make those dvd's available in those countries because first you'll need to cash in on tv rights, so people are forced to watch something that's a year old. And after all that start season two and repeat the whole process. It's OK to make money, but stop thinking that people are stupid; There's a reason Spotify has more than 20 million paying customers.

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11yr ago

@fbara I'm really disappointed as well. And to see so many up votes! I believe many people here are trying to make money at their own businesses and would be horrified if people were stealing from them... but yet they advocate stealing copyrighted materials and not paying for content. Very abhorrent behavior from this crowd in my opinion!

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11yr ago

Since when does Product Hunt condone piracy? How about people just pay for the damn movie they want to watch.

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11yr ago

Origami

@milankragujevic This is an amazing product, but why aren't you worried about being sued?

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11yr ago

Product Hunt

@andrewwarner I have the same question 😀

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11yr ago

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@rrhoover @andrewwarner I live in a country where copyright law is almost nonexistant, and simply I don't care. I will keep moving the website, changing domains and providers... I don't need to earn a single penny from it, I just want to do it because I believe that piracy will eventually cause the streaming bubble to pop, and the movie studios will realize that: a) Geo-blocking is pointless - It just makes it more expensive to legally watch content (see VPNs+Netflix) b) Charging for a movie the same amount of money in the U.S. with the minimum wage of $7 and Serbia, with a minimum wage of less than $1. It's insane and causes people to pirate c) Legitimate streaming websites must not have any DRM and not include any proprietary codecs, as that causes the browser to be vulnerable due to the sloppy programming. d) Legitimate streaming websites must be available all over the world in all languages, with movies that people want to watch in that region. I Don't care about how that's "impossible". If they don't realize that, they're going to be "battling" piracy forever, and piracy always wins. You cut off one head, 5 more grow out.

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11yr ago

@milankragujevic @andrewwarner keep bending yourself in knots over the justification. The reality is that no one that this effects monetarily "works" for the MPAA. They are a lobbying organization. The worldwide rights picture as applied to movies (and music) is much, much, much more complicated than strictly "greed". But of course simplistic justifications for piracy (and reactionary measures to combat it) are old enough to drive by now, so fuck it.

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11yr ago

@milankragujevic @andrewwarner The website seems to be down already, have you got another site up? Or perhaps a twitter handle I can follow to follow the domains?

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11yr ago

@ethank funny to see you here :) long time no see ++

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10yr ago

This is fantastic. I'm a big fan of Popcorn Time. Should I believe your Twitter that you're only 15 years old?

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11yr ago

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Maker

@vassvdm It's true. I've just begun high school. I've been programming since age 11 actually.

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11yr ago

Repuso

Looks very good @milankragujevic! Could you expand a bit on the techniques you used and the inner workings?

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11yr ago

Im so confused, Popcorn has been around forever, I just wonder how they stay away from getting closed down! What's your secret guys? One thought: I always wished I could 'hunt' movies and shows I found that you didn't have and add it to your platform. Id bloody love that!

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11yr ago

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