This app is based on the neuroscience principles of learning that were first explored by Opera singer Gabriel Wyner in his popular book by the same name. For anyone interested in finally picking up that elusive language, this may be the tool to get you there!
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Took the app for a spin. I’m learning Spanish now and have a Spanish tutor from Medellin. Sort of followed the trajectory of the app on my own. Pronunciation lessons are fun.
Couple of observations:
1) I would have liked the pronunciation section to be full sentences for Spanish. When you are listening to native speakers speak Spanish a lot of words are combined.
2) Grammar has English translations. Thought the point was to teach without this. Also would like to able to review the words I said I know.
3) Understood the pairing with native speakers is in development. Will it only be native speakers with fluency in another language?
@mack_allen Great observations.
1) This makes sense. The pronunciation section is in some sense a first set of steps. The next steps are really in the grammar section; with all the sentences and the variety of speakers we use in that section, that should help folks get more familiar with how words behave in the wild.
2) I'm definitely anti-translation when it comes to stuff that you review on a daily basis, but there's not a huge loss in offering translations the very first time you encounter a new word/sentence. So I do include those at first, because it makes it much easier to figure out which word is doing what within each sentence.
Regarding your 'Known Words' - we're definitely aiming to include a reviewable Known Words list as a future feature.
3) The goal with our tutoring products at first is to let you choose any tutor you like, and just allow you+your tutor to easily add new sentences into the app and onto your flashcards. Over time, we want to expand this to official Fluent Forever Tutors and stuff but at first, it's about personalized content creation. A bit more on that over here: https://blog.fluent-forever.com/...
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@mack_allen@gabriel_wyner
Maybe offer a way to disable translations? I personally really hate relying on translations in general ^^
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The app demands payment upfront before you can look at anything even for the free trial and they have the audacity to go "We HAVE to do this. The app stores make us" when I've been on free trials that didn't demand I put my payment method in before i could look around. Use some features? Sure. But this is the kind of tactic that a shady adult website uses. Not someone who has an actual worth while product. Cannot stress enough how much of a scam this feels like. Even if they have a legit product I'm not gonna sign up right off the bat and have to jump through a dozen hoops to unsubscribe. Its bad enough they have my email now and I'll get spammed by them for signing up. I just wanted to see what languages they had available. Can't even do that. So shady and disrespectful to the consumer.
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@james_ocean Your instincts were correct, James. I read the book and was infatuated and made the mistake of signing up with them. They've stolen $20 from me without providing a functioning app. Their customer service is rude and very slow. They have a no refund policy, no matter what. I recommended them to a friend and regret that. I'm going back to Anki and will never sign up for an app that takes money info ahead of time.
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@james_ocean COMPLETELY AGREE!!! I am so furious. They billed me for 2 full years before I caught on because the billing is so infrequent. It is not about the money at all, it is about the dishonesty, the lack of customer service support, and the sneaky scammy way they go about it. Just gross. I still can't figure out how to get my account canceled. Ridiculous. Good luck to you.
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Are you planning to add any Scandinavian languages in the near future? I'd love to try the app out, but at the moment I'm interested in learning Danish or Swedish.
@maria_kluziak Danish/Swedish are going to be a ways away, at the moment! We do have long term plans but we want to get the existing product really solid and awesome first.
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Congrats on being the #1 Product of the Day! It's been really neat to see this product hit the ground running.
Fluent Forever
Fluent Forever
Fluent Forever
Try the app and starting speaking a new language
Pros:Excellent learning method
Cons:No better alternative
Looking forward to seeing what future updates bring!
Pros:Great for getting a new language to stick.
Cons:Could use more languages.
I've been using since the beta long ago. There have been many solid improvements along the way (and some growing pains).
Pros:Easy to learn a new language!
Cons:None so far