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good research @ow - nice hack; I wonder how that would be interpreted from a copyright perspective given the files are hosted on YouTube. Is the copyright infringement YouTube's responsibility?
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Is this any different to Grooveshark? The only difference then being that this is an app not a website...
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Oh, so does Product Hunt support copyright infringement these days then? @rrhoover
(EDIT: by this I mean that this product is infringing copywright, not that PH is)
Should we submit Pirate Bay next as a product?
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And where is Digg today? :)
My point is that many members of Product Hunt own products that rely on copyrights and IP.
If someone launched a service that displayed an eBook library, and all the content came via torrents, would we also upvote that to the top? Despite many members of PH relying on their ebook sales to supplement earnings?
I agree Ryan that you shouldn't be the moral police... I think the community should self police itself. Downvotes are something to avoid 100%, but maybe some posting guidelines?
"Shady products not allowed"?
"Popcorn Time for Music", so you mean Napster, Limewire os Kazaa?
@liamgooding I agree. If this was "Download iOS Apps for free" or "Access any SaaS without paying", it would probably be slated or ignored.
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@liamgooding I don't think you can just call this shady as the whole area is far from black & white. Apple give an artist 2-10% of the price and add 30% to their hefty cash pile. Why is that so much better?
I'm personally very interested to see how these copyright battles pan out and therefore take an interest in new products on the scene because there's still so much movement to come.
If you can spare some time watch or even just listen to this debate - . Chuck D and Lars Ulrich in 2000 discuss Napster. It's v. interesting given the perspective we now have.
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Why should a product not be discussed if the copyright implications are presently uncertain?
"Shady products not allowed" does not sound like a good idea to me at all and I don't see any benefit in having such a guideline.
If we were to follow this line of thought; then essentially it would mean that the next YouTube shouldn't be shared on Product Hunt, as some users share copyrighted videos on it.
The fact is that copyright holders have means to deal with copyright infringement (the legal system). There is no law saying that you cannot discuss products which fall into a legal grey area as far as I'm aware. If a copyright holder were upset with a product on Product Hunt, then they should follow standard processes and submit a DMCA.
Sharing a tool like Popcorn time vs linking to an Adobe Photoshop keygen are very clear distinctions imho.
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