Okay, let's go the other way.
If I understand you correctly and we are talking about the big picture, we would transform Product Hunt to Open Hunt by giving featured access to each user and comment access.
Now everyone who still thinks Open Hunt is a good idea: there are days when 100+ products are posted to PH, 10-20-30 get featured. The others may be good but Open Hunt is totally on the other side. How would a casual user glimpse on 100+ produts @jacquescrocker ?
Same with comment access. Don't you think some people who are more "enthusiastic" about their startups will just casually comment 400 times on each product to get some spotlight? Or even better: If a startup hires people to do it?
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@noxowe these seem like solved problems in Reddit or HN. PH does not use karma which seems to be a key component of it's predecessors community. Obviously the discussions in HN and Reddit (and the 1000s of active sub-reddits) are very different from one another and I think OH has a chance to develop their own unique community. It could also end in a terrible ball of fire. I'll be excited to watch. And these are only problems if they have a bunch of active users, so I'm sure that is their first hurdle.
It seems like you're trying to find an alternative to the Upcoming section of PH? I'm all for that, though, I'm not sure this is the right way of doing it. You should offer something more. A chance for products to stand out of this really large list. For example: every 15 minutes, 5 different products get to be in the spotlight. That way, product at the bottom of the list also get a chance to catch some upvotes.
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@poehah I think there are some real opportunities to develop really great features. Keep in mind this is their initial launch. I'm excited that it is open source as well. I'm definitely going to try and contribute something.
@danielrakh I agree, the iOS update has greatly reduced my PH usage.
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What I like about this product is the desire of openness and transparency ! 👍 I guess ProductHunt has been thinking about it, for hours and hours, and days, (and months ?...), well, more than us !
But the thing is I really *trust* products that are featured on ProductHunt, and I guess it’s hard to get to this point being this open and transparent (= gaming the system is easy).
So for me it’s ok if PH cut the line for active PH users, or for their friends, because they know that it’s a ‘good’ product that can be trusted. It's part of the algorithm 😺.
The "problem" with PH is the *weight* people give it, A LOT OF WEIGHT. All those "Hyped bloggers" writing how PH drove signups and VC money is a double-edged sword for the product hunt marketing team.
The OMGWTFBBQness propagated through the interwebs at speed of light.
Yes, it's curated.
Yes, you might have the best startup ever and still not be featured.
Yes, there's a lot of secret-handshaking.
A lesson you need to learn ^
*You don't have to be featured on PH to become a billion dollar company*
<3 them or hate them! Why can't we just all hunt & chill? 👍
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Open Hunt looks like a great opportunity for makers with early stage products to get feedback when they need it. The wisdom of keeping feedback private is questionable, but the community is young and will learn what provides its members the most value.
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@kkdub I think hiding the feedback was a poor choice as well. But luckily it is open source and we can submit this as an issue! I bet it already has been.
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