Packr ✈️

Pack list for each trip

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Pack list for each trip

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We love to #travel so we made Packr, the smart travel assistant in your phone that will help you pack your bags for each trip.

Launch tags:iOS•Backpacks•Global Nomad

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Not sure why I bought this when I already had Packpoint. This app seems almost exactly the same in terms of UX. The only difference I see is the ability to add more icons, but beyond that looks eerily similar.

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8yr ago

Work Smart - 10: The PR guru that got us into Forbes, Joey Pomerenke

@codymclain thanks for noticing. These guys totally ripped off PackPoint. They even stole the language translation, verbatim, from PackPoint. Source: The PackPoint PM is my brother.

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8yr ago

Packr ✈️

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@raygwater There aren't 1000 ways to design an iPhone app, the screen is so small, the UX team must design easy to use and comprehensible layouts. Some views might be similar to Packpoint, to Packing Pro, to Triplist, yet again you could find similarities between Packr and the iOS Notes app. As for the language translations, NO we didn't steal it from Packpoint, first of all Packpoint isn't available in French, Packr is. Moreover if you compare languages available in Packpoint and Packr, they are different. If we had stolen translations from Packpoint, we might as well have released in the same languages. Packr was designed with the trip photo, weather and packing list in mind. Not stealing another app's design. @codymclain I agree with you, if you already own Packpoint, it isn't necessary to purchase Packr. Please contact me in private for a refund.

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8yr ago

@jkleroy I'm the maker of PackPoint. You stole everything but PackPoint's UI and added French (your website says you're based in France, so it seems reasonable for you to add French). You stole the primary mechanisms of the UX, the exact wording for many features, buttons, packing list items, and you copied the business model (including even the app title in the app store for both the freemium and paid versions). I've spoken with a legal rep at Apple and am working to get Packr removed from the App Store. Some say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but you are actively earning revenue on something that you didn't create on your own so I'm not that flattered after all. I will reach out to Product Hunt as well to see about getting this post removed so you don't receive any further undue attention, positive or negative.

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8yr ago

@rrhoover any advice here with regards to copy cat apps being on PH?

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8yr ago

I bought Packpoint and never used it. When I saw this post, I did think it was a new release of the app I purchased 3-4 years ago. Doesn't seem like a straight ripoff to me. And, whatever they may have appropriated from the Packpoint concept, they've done a much better job with their business model. 4.5 stars with nearly 1000 reviews? Packpoint doesn't even have a star breakdown on the app store page. Just feels a little like sour grapes to me to come here and rag on a competitor, especially from an app that hasn't had an update for nearly a year.

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8yr ago

Sad to see someone waste time to copy an existing app, tweak a few things and try to convince people that there's nothing wrong. Why not contact the creator and see how you can work together? For partnerships and be creative. I mean, look at the logos! Can't even be creative enough there? Sorry Packr, total fail.

Pros:

none for Packr. All for Pack Point because imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

Cons:

All for Packr because they are a rip off of pack point

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8yr ago

Launched a similar app, Packable, for Android not even reached top 10 on Product Hunt. I remember when another similar iOS app was launched, again it was first for that day. Only wanted to point out what a big difference is between iOS and Android, even if I'm an Android dev.

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8yr ago

Packr ✈️

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@ivandrag it clearly depends on the audience. I believe Product Hunt visitors are mostly from the US which has above 50% market share in iOS in the age range 25-40. Other countries like Europe have up to 70% Android share. Had a look at your app, nice job!

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8yr ago

@jkleroy Thanks. See that you have plenty of reviews on your app. How many downloads does the app have? Is it a free version of it or just paid?

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8yr ago

Packr ✈️

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@ivandrag I'd rather not disclose the total downloads of Packr. Although you can find some pretty good download estimates on ASO tools. Packr is a freemium app. 90% of the features are free (no ads), users can unlock premium features to includes full weather forecast, custom packing lists and synchronization on all iOS devices. Getting a lot of reviews is extremely important on app stores (both Google Play & Apple App Store). Packr uses a slightly modified version of iRate (now deprecated) to improve user reviews and ratings: https://github.com/nicklockwood/...

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8yr ago

Like this app a lot, could do with UK based terminology but that’s a minor quibble. Bought the full version, super value for £1.99

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8yr ago

Packr ✈️

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@stevenlaw Thank you for the suggestion. We weren't sure UK users would need this but one customer's request is enough to put this feature on the to-do list.

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8yr ago

Work Smart - 10: The PR guru that got us into Forbes, Joey Pomerenke

Don’t support. This team ripped off PackPoint down to every last item on the packing list. Stole all of the features, all of the copy, and even the foreign language translations. A violation of the AppStore’s TOS (they explicitly say to make your own apps, and not to re-skin an existing popular app). Ben Gillenwater (PackPoint PM) is filing a complaint.

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8yr ago