Congrats on launching! Looks great!
I wonder how the process was regarding this app is on Android too. Is it native? Did you used something like shared frameworks across the systems? How was the process between the Android and iOS team (or was it one team) so that you have the same features in both?
@arno_app Great question! We've spent a lot of time trying to figure this out. The UI code for this app is mostly done in Swift 3. The PDF editing is powered by the PSPDFKit SDK which can also be licensed by other apps - that is mostly Objective-C++. And we share a common core with Android, which is about 500k LOC. We've blogged about the sharing a while ago - this is still mostly up to date: https://pspdfkit.com/blog/2016/a... - Android UI is also all Java and custom-built; you can't really share UI code without making compromises, so we rewrote it specifically for each platform. There's also PSPDFKit for Web coming later this month which also uses the common C++ core, but a completely new JavaScript-based UI. https://pspdfkit.com/web/
@arno_app@steipete PSPDFKit has been in the works for 5 years on iOS and almost 2 years now on Android. We have a team of over 30 people working full time on the SDKs. The apps took a bit over 6 months each but with some of the previous components, like the file manager, having a skeleton version of them already built. Obviously, the frameworks were the only reason we were able to put out the 1.0 in that short of a timeframe.
@alexeyplekhanov@arno_app Yes! We have a prototype for a year now but sync has a lot of edge cases (and syncing view state in real time/presentation mode) so we're working hard to really get it perfect before it's out.
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What's the difference between this and Adobe?
I'm a little biased because that's what I have always used 🙀
@dredurr - That's a great question. Thank you for asking!
The major differences come in the UI and UX of the two apps and what you get for free versus what you have to be a paying subscriber of Adobe to get.
Acrobat is honestly not great on mobile currently and not really built specifically tailored for each platform. For instance, finding various views of the file manager on Acrobat on iOS is difficult, importing from other cloud service providers beside DC or Dropbox is not easy, after you highlight a sentence of text you then have to reselect the highlight tool to highlight more text, etc. These are the little details that make all the difference in an alright user experience and a great one. We all know on mobile, if the UX is not delightful, people will just pull out their laptop.
The other difference is in paid versus free features. For instance, if you want to view a thumbnail summary of the pages, this is only available as a paid subscriber of Adobe's. Further, if you want to edit the document by rotating a page, deleting a page, or reordering pages, these are also not available without being a paid subscriber. We offer all these features for free and make it easy to use them.
I hope that helps you make the switch! I really hope you check out both apps and let me know what you like more about Adobe over us. Thanks again for the question.
@dredurr I've always used adobe for pdf annotation before too. It gave me chills every time I anticipate using it. The experience has always been sub par. I now rely on preview but that's only a little better. That said, I still really only annotate on my laptop and not mobile. Will give this a try for a new experience! @jdrhyne
We're on Android as well and Google is currently featuring us in their brand new "Early Access" section, which helps a lot to find eager testers. https://play.google.com/store/ap...
Does the app support scanning documents (& creating a PDF of it)?
That's one of the major painful use cases I regularly have. Especially then stitching the scans together and getting the file out of these scanner apps again.
@__tosh Yep, you can select an image and convert it to PDF. We don't yet do page/rectangle detection, but that's on our list. Getting that right is quite a lot of work; you want to add logic to easily add pages, ideally auto-name the files, auto-upload; apply filters and potentially also do OCR.
When you have ever searched the app stores for apps related to document management or PDFs you will know the feeling: thousands of apps, almost all of them poorly done and either full of ads or crashing in the worst moment or missing exactly the feature you needed to finish working with the document and then you are back at square one. 😰
Super glad that now the company behind the widely used PSPDFKit SDK launched their own PDF viewer. Worth giving a try and from now on one of the very few apps that I keep permanently installed. 📱💘
@__tosh Thanks for hunting! Super proud to finally share this with the world, we're looking forward for loads of feedback to make this even better. Don't hold back! We know that there's still a lot to improve, but we're already using it every day and didn't want to hold back any longer.
Yes, the app is free, has no ads and no in-app purchases. What's our business model you're asking? Check out our blog and follow up with any questions here.
https://pspdfkit.com/blog/2016/p...
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I am looking forward to be able to embed and secure (digitally sign) with any certificate and time stamp server, like I currently do on the desktop, and verify if the document received has not been tampered, it is signed with a valid certificate from an authority that I trust and if it has been time stamped locally or by a server that I trust.
Nowadays on iOS any app, that I know, that is able to sign a document (PDF or otherwise) with a certificate wants to become your third party of trust… That doesn't cut it for me, if I were to need I third party of trust, I want to have a choice of providers as I have on the desktop, because there is no one size fits all.
In the EU, most institutions are making these third parties irrelevant by sending you back a new document embedding yours but signed and time stamped by them too to acknowledge its recipt.
Moreover in the EU, digital signatures are free as in beer, because they are right for residents, a duty for the governments and companies operating within it, so member states have, free as in beer, services and gateways that will validate the integrity, parties, dates of signed documents.
@abetancort Thanks for your input! We already support Digital Signatures, you can verify them in PDF Viewer. Creating them is coming in a later update - we want to get this right and help people set everything up correctly, write documentation, add importers, validate certificates - there's a lot of complexity to ensure most users benefit from that. This is likely one of the features we'll put under the "Pro/Powerpack" umbrella with a small subscription fee. We're giving away a lot of functionality completely free and there's neither ads nor do we have alerts asking for reviews. It's a big investment on our side and we feel this is a premium feature that will help prosumers a lot - if we can get it right.
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I don't mind paying for a feature but don't try to make a close system and charge per signature. Nowadays there are a few (a dozen) EC initiatives to bring multi digital signage with certificates to iOS for free in Apps and Online Web Apps that no longer require Java on the client side (there even are some beta apps already working). So be aware that charging a subscription or pay per signature won't work at least within the EU.
Many US Signature providers are miserably failing in the EU with consumers, professionals and Small Businesses because they haven't taken the time to study of their product's natural substitutes and their pricing in the EU and keep trying push products and services with their US price strategy like if this were the US where eGoverment and Digital Signature are neither widely used nor developed by the Government and with EU grants as long as they are released to the public on open license.
Act Globally, Think Locally.
@abetancort Our Digital Signature support in PSPDFKit is implemented after the open PDF specification: https://pspdfkit.com/guides/ios/... - we know that there are a few iOS apps in the store that support it since we supply the technology to almost all of them. There's still a lot that can be done to further improve this and we have many ideas - stay tuned!
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