Rich Kids

Photo sharing app where users pay $1000/mo to share

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Photo sharing app where users pay $1000/mo to share

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Which charity organizations, specifically, are benefitting from 1/3 of the membership subscription fee?

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10yr ago

Rich Kids

Maker

@chloereimer will not share them publicly as they don't want to be connected with service with such bad public reception. but that doesn't mean we won't donate to them. you can be 100% sure that we will, but privately.

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10yr ago

@jurajivan If you won't share them publicly, share them privately. DM me on Twitter (@chloereimer) with the names of the charities. You can be 100% sure I won't share them.

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10yr ago

Instant Logo Search

@chloereimer boom

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10yr ago

So here's an update. Long story short: The Rich Kids team is maybe even less credible in private than it is in public. Somehow. I was DM'd the names of two charities, which, as promised, I won't name here. When I asked if the Rich Kids team had contact with those charities (as was implied in this thread), I was told that one of the charities "dropped on" the Rich Kids team because the charity wasn't a fan of the service (shocking), and that the Rich Kids team was "working on" getting in contact with the other one. So, in so many words, no, the Rich Kids team is not in contact with the charities that they purported to be in contact with. In fact, their service is (allegedly) _disliked_ by one of those charities. Pair that with the fact that they've removed all mention of charity from the site, yet keep hammering social media with the hilariously nebulous promise that people can "be 100% sure" that 1/3 of the subscription fees will go to charity, and... Well. Scam or not, the Rich Kids team is treating their ill-deserved audience like absolute idiots. But hey. Maybe that's how rich kids like to be treated.

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10yr ago

Rich Kids

Maker

UPDATE I tried to reply to most of your comments here. It's sad that Product Hunt community thinks that this is a scam and we have nothing better to do then to create fake service to steal rich people's money and misuse charity for that. Really? We put a lot of effort to build this service because there is no such a thing on a market and we believe it can work. Okay? It may not work out, we may not be able to get enough members to cover the costs, or have users to keep coming to our app, BUT AT LEAST WE ARE GIVING IT A SHOT.

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10yr ago

@jurajivan Will you please name the charities?

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10yr ago

@jurajivan genius idea, i always respected making money out of thin air :) got a lot of subscriptions already?

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10yr ago

@jurajivan "be visible" cannot equate "meaningful". But I'm looking forward to the radical, Buffer-like transparency of every dollar committed to your vague "oriented on children" cause you mention. I'm on board if you really go make your "meaningful" impact with this.

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10yr ago

ProdPad

@jurajivan This is not a real problem. You made up this problem.

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10yr ago

@jeremy_caverly I wish I could upvote your comment 20 more times!

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10yr ago

What happens to the other 2/3 of the profit? Why couldn't that be donated? Additionally, it seems like the app is made by another company "FOX VALLEY APPS"? So what does your company actually produce?

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10yr ago

Rich Kids

Maker

@angelosunmile Have you ever built something in your life? If so, you would know that to make a service like this work you need a functioning business model to back it up.

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10yr ago

@jurajivan @angelosunmile Yes I built many products/websites in my life. I understand your frustration with the comments here. My point being that the 1/3 cutoff seems arbitrary. The two selling points you are trying to show are 1) a group of people can express themselves in a certain way on social media and a $1000 can be used as a cutoff point, 2) by using this social app, the users are performing a charity. The problem is that $1000 could be donated directly to charity without this social network. While it's true your app adds value, your app is still not a necessity. The question people will ask is what value your app really adds is worth $666?

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10yr ago

@jurajivan @angelosunmile In fact if you really want to sell to the charity angle, you could make the company a NGO. Or you could add a button that says donate to charity in your app instead of a direct donation based on revenue. Or you could pivot the app to be something similar to path.

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10yr ago

Rich Kids

Maker

@angelo_liao @angelosunmile it's not meant to sell on charity. so we decided it will be better not mention charity on the homepage. that doesn't mean we are not donating, we are just not displaying it there. thanks for your feedback.

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10yr ago

Just a way for the founder to attempt to earn a lot of money from stupid people. The charity incentive is to try and mask that, but we know this app wasn't built to help poor people.

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10yr ago

Rich Kids

Maker

@xstex 🐂💩

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10yr ago

@jurajivan 💀

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10yr ago

@xstex When I read the concept, I instantly thought: "what's their trick to (try) survive the hate flow" ? Well, 1/3 of easy money to charity should be enough ... At least that's what they think. As I've seen in the comment, if charity was the real aim, they would have named the charities.

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10yr ago

@dipsy_fr 100%, this is so they can spin it. We just have to trust they'll donate it to charity apparently. Not good enough and nobody in a right state of mind would believe it without seeing some evidence.

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10yr ago

Rich Kids

Maker

@xstex @dipsy_fr We would LOVE to name the charities, problem is, as I mentioned in another comment, they don't want to have anything to do with Rich Kids as it would give them bad PR. That's why we have to keep it private. This is email from lady working in the charity we were interested in: https://postimg.org/image/rviphs...

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10yr ago

Hiro Baby

As ridicolous this product may sound, I think there is a market for this. There is people who are thinking and living a very different lifestyle than PH community. This is far from satire and stupid. Instead, I think is a great go-to market. Questions remains how to get the right early adopters for this app and what are the plans for that. Maybe the team can share a little more on this here.

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10yr ago

@pbuckendorf I agree.

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10yr ago

Rich Kids

Maker

@pbuckendorf the first and only meaningful comment in this discussion. thank you Phil.

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10yr ago

Brutal Teardowns

@jurajivan @pbuckendorf +1 to Phil's comments. I think there's definitely a market for this. I mean, "Cribs", "Lifestyles of the rich and famous", etc. A bit reason tweens/teens use Twitter/Insta is to stay in touch with celebs they care about, isn't it? There's a burning desire in humans to see how the other half live. The other side of the coin is that this is the first real app that filters content creators in a social setting. You're controlling the firehose. Not sure if anyone else does this - the only thing that comes to mind is the initial LinkedIn influencers program, but even that's been opened up now. It's all going to be about getting the right early adopters onto the platform, to bring the 99% in as spectators.

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10yr ago

@jurajivan You're getting a lot of negative comments which is normal because your product is provocative. However, I personally have nothing against charging a bunch of rich kids a lot of money just because they want to show the world they can. After all, people do pay tens of thousands of dollars in one evening just to sit at a table listening to bad music while drinking average vodka with gold petals in it. Rich kids can be true idiots and why not take advantage of it. Congrats on trying ! I actually don't even think you should have to donate 1/3 of your income to charities (though it's a good thing, but I don't think it'll make your product a success/failure, it's more like you know it's sad that the money would go in your pocket when other poor kids are dying and would give anything to go to school -> do it to feel better, for yourself, but it wont be enough to make your product seem "positive). Rich people already have thousands of ways they can give $$$ to charities (plus they get all the tax refunds and stuff while seeming like they're the kindest people on Earth). I might be wrong on this statement. Something I am sure I'm right about because I've seen this rich crowd up close : the name of your product is pretty bad. This was mentioned in another comment by @hickmanzackary : rich people want a "classy" and "exclusive" name which feels like it's only for the rich without actually saying it. Take the classic "Country Club" : it's not called "Exclusive Club for Rich White People", yet it's what the name implies and everyone knows only rich white people with connections go there. But no one would go to "Exclusive Club for Rich White People" because they would seem like assholes, so they called it a Country Club. Why not get rid of "Rich Kids" and call it "Black Network" or "Insidr" or whatever. And I think the same goes for the very tacky gold frame (which I actually find cheap and I'm pretty sure uneducated sleazy youngsters would be glad to use it). Maybe something you could do is find 10-20 rich AND influential kids to whom you would give access to your app for free and they would sign a contract saying they would not post anything on any other social network (or at the very least they would have to post exclusive content on your network and announce that to their followers on Instagram & FB. Then, they get to send 5 invites to their friends who have to pay your $1000 fee. Aaaand repeat that over and over. Trying to be constructive and supportive here.

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10yr ago

Oh and @jurajivan you are not being very well behaved for the CEO of a company. If you ever become successful, all the little nasty comments you're posting right now are going to make you seem very childish. There will always be haters, and replying with things like "🐂💩 ", being agressive and defensive will get you nowhere. I mean, imagine if Steve Jobs, or Elon Musk or whoever you admire had been replying "🐂💩 " to people who didn't like him or his ideas, come on man, have a little composure! Your typical answer should be something like "I know my product can seem provocative and can shock a lot of people. However, I believe there is a market for it and I am working on addressing this market in the best way possible while at the same time doing a little good for people who are having a hard time."

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10yr ago

Rich Kids

Maker

@tom_jacquesson you are absolutely right, I got emotional and I shouldn't. but after all the effort we put into it, reading that I am a liar got me pretty angry... Anyway, I really appreciate your feedback. 🙌

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10yr ago

Brutal Teardowns

@jurajivan @tom_jacquesson +1 to dropping the charity angle. This does nothing for me

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10yr ago

Hiro Baby

@rossdcurrie @jurajivan @tom_jacquesson +2

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10yr ago

Corkdork

I'm genuinely surprised Apple permitted this app, especially after way back in 2008 when they removed the featureless $1,000 "I Am Rich" app. This is the same thing.

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10yr ago

Rich Kids

Maker

@rueter And how exactley is this the same? I'm really interested.

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10yr ago

Neutun

@jurajivan @rueter I think he is saying its the same in that from the users perspective it is a status symbol market... its probably less accidently harmful though... I am guessing why it was allowed versus the "I Am Rich" app is because this app is a subscription after download.... and the "I Am Rich" app was charging people right when they downloaded it... lots of people downloaded it by mistake either not reading the $999.99 price tag correctly (lots of things are priced $0.99 or $9.99, and their brains filled in the rest) or thought it couldn't possibly be real... that and iTunes 2008 refund policy was hit or miss...

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10yr ago

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