Someone told me a line, which I thought would be good for a discussion to have:
Accept it - "If you can't trust your team to work from home; you don't trust them at all."
Ps: I like to work from the office
Please share your comments and views on the same.
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Neither? I don't like working at home, because I need a separate space to feel productive. But I also think the benefits of remote work are amazing and far outweigh in-person offices.
My solution: rent a small private office about 5-10 minutes from where I live. It allows me to get out of the house and have a separate work space while still eliminating the negatives of the office.
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@exemplar That's true, office space surely increase productivity and gives you a change, sitting at home would surely become boring after a point of time.
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If you think the major issue is trust (which I personally don't think it is), it all comes down to people in the end. Good managers will be comfortable with WFH and bad won't. Good employees will work productively and less committed won't.
My observation on that is that people who aren't productive at home, probably aren't productive in the office. So, net gain either way.
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@kim_lawson Hence we don't recruit them, but I believe the conversation here was which one is better for you WFH or WFO? Which one do you prefer?
Also trust is important at all cost, you need to trust your team to take at-least small decisions, if you don't trust them the company would always remain a start-up and never become an organisation. Because it's practically not possible you to reach at all places.
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@shalin_doshi Yes, which I answered as WFH mostly, but you countered that with the trust aspect. I still say that that is not the issue. But I do hear what you say.
I did quite a bit of WFH (in an engineering situation, so pretty unusual) prior to COVID. I've experienced the good and bad from a personal perspective. I agree with all who bring up the collaborative aspect. For me, that's the main reason for going to the office.
However, I suspect that as technology becomes more clever we will be able to approximate the sort of F2F creativity that we need. I was not a fan of working from home initially and that has definitely changed (mainly due to technology advances).
Also, from a sustainability viewpoint it's a no-brainier to stick to office work as the rule. But I think we kinda agree at heart.
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@kim_lawson how much ever technology advances it’s never going to replace human interaction 1v1 so I believe that can’t be a reason to replace that interaction. If technology can resolve the creativity of collaborations I believe the airline industry is going to go for a toss.
Also WFH is a costly affair especially in countries where unit rate of electricity i high.
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@shalin_doshi I think you might have just hit on a real casualty of WFH. Airlines should be very worried. And transport services in general. But don't you think this is being driven by climate issues as much as anything else?
Also, think of the premium businesses get charged for their custom. Rental values, telecoms charges etc. It has to be more efficient to cut office space. I would like to see a 4/1 ratio of people specifically going into the office one day a week for the F2F collaborations. Is that realistic? Viable commuter-wise? I think it could be made to work. Or would that indeed end up being a "jolly"? Interesting times huh?
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@kim_lawson no I meant people commuting to different counties for business and travel, if technology is going to replace human interaction why would anyone travel?
1. During WFH there is 90% of the times calls going on, half of which are irrelevant but people have to be a part of it.
2. How do you work when you have to sit on calls for hours? Working time increases tremendously 9-5 job becomes 9-9 job what’s the point?
3. How to track any employee log?
4. 4 days work can’t be discussed in 1 day plus when you meet you team after 4-5 days there a lot of catching up to do instead of work as well being practical. So it’s real difficult to focus right.
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Wfh is something which we all started enjoying recently and it helps in balancing professional and personal life.
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@inam_from_outgrow for me WFH is only balancing personal life, with the number of distractions at home, it becomes hard to work. Plus you need a change after some time. It's like food can be cooked at home as well, why go to a restaurant? For change. Anyways what's your take on it?
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I prefer working from office. Working from home makes me feel more lazy. I can't control when to wake up. and I feel like everything is mixed up, doing home stuff while doing my work tasks.
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@dina_mostafa working from home comes with challenges and we have tried to solve one of the issue of networking with people by launching our product DashLynk https://www.producthunt.com/post..., so check it out and give us your feedback if possible.
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I think it's not necessarily the location itself. I'd imagine I'd have the same adverse reaction to "Work ONLY from this coffee shop" as I do to "Work from office."
The flexibility is what I appreciate.
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@reecekjones flexibility in terms of location or does it even include timings?
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@shalin_doshi I think everything, all kinds of flexibility haha.
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@reecekjones can you let us know what business are you into?
@reecekjones imagine if you were at a wework, how many people you could have reached? Potentially to try your product out
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As a marketer, I need to connect with people, hear their ideas, brainstorm, and "talk-it-through". Couple of days working from home — okay, to focus and execute your plans, but no more.
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@armenuhi_yeganyan are you in the zone when WFH compared to office culture?
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@armenuhi_yeganyan working from home comes with challenges and we have tried to solve one of the issue of networking with people by launching our product DashLynk https://www.producthunt.com/post..., so check it out and give us your feedback if possible.
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Trusting your team, even in the office setup, existed pre-covid. There should be no difference in trusting your team to perform as good, outside the office. Given that some team members might be more efficient working in the office for whatever reasons, a hybrid setup is good. Others, who perform better in WFH, can stay WFH.
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@reyalteedotcom that’s difficult to judge, I believe you can test the employee under pressure in an office environment better, compared to home setup. Also, a lot of task can be explained well 1v1 compared to virtual
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I love the social aspect of working from the office, but commuting + distractions are so tricky for me.
We have a hybrid team across timezones and recommended WFO days, but are flexible which is nice!
I've found connecting with team members that are remote by DMing them with less-work related stuff has been really helpful to connect while remote, which means that when I am in the office for a social event / team strategy meeting, I'm a lot more present and energised! ⚡️
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@kina so hybrid is the future, but would it have an effect on your output if you worked 100% from office?
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@shalin_doshi absolutely! I find being in the office constantly quite tiring and distracting, and prefer to have time to WFH 😊
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@kina I feel WFH is more distracting compared to working from office, as we can focus on more in work environment compared to home. I would like to state for schools in examples, studies can happen from home as well, why have school? Because the students get distracted at home.
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@kina working from home comes with challenges and we have tried to solve one of the issue of networking with people by launching our product DashLynk https://www.producthunt.com/post..., so check it out and give us your feedback if possible.
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Both have their value, but the default location has to be home. It's good to do fairly regular F2F with workmates though. We're social animals and that reinforces bonds like nothing else.
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@kim_lawson There is nothing has to be, if that was the case apple or google wouldn't have spend billions of dollars to create an office space, having great leaders they could have implement WFH easily, but I'm sure there would be some benefits as to why they spend so heavily in creating a good office space. Also We work become a billion dollar company by providing a seat in a building, that same seat and table was there in someones house, yet they opted for we work.
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@kim_lawson Hey Kim, working from home comes with challenges and we have tried to solve one of the issue of networking with people by launching our product DashLynk https://www.producthunt.com/post..., so check it out and give us your feedback if possible.
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I think there should be blend of both the modes of work. Since, we all have seen that WFH is workable so employees should be given privilege to do WFH and if possible then they can visit office once a week to interact with their co-workers because no matter how much they talk on zoom or google meet, meeting in person hits differently.
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@srishty_chaudhary Hey Srishty, working from home comes with challenges and we have tried to solve one of the issue of networking with people by launching our product DashLynk https://www.producthunt.com/post..., so check it out and give us your feedback if possible.
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