@jamescampbell That's definitely our top priority for the next major release. What do you use? Outlook?
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@alberto_santos i use Mail app in my macbook and i am running my own mail server using mailinabox on a digital ocean vps. I know im probably in minority here or maybe not? I dont use third party email services at all. running james at jamescampbell.us all on my own.
I applaud the effort, but I feel like your comments here and your website are sending mixed messages about what the app does. This only helps me clear up my inbox by shifting my email newsletters to Kite *if* they're newsletters your team has added to Kite through your curation process. It doesn't really help me clear up my inbox if it only shifts the newsletters of your team's choosing to Kite. I still have a lot of newsletters that your team hasn't added to Kite (and may never add since, again, there's only your team's curation and not a system for adding any newsletters I choose), and those will still go to my inbox alone. I understand your newsletter list will grow, but I can't know if it will include any I'm currently subscribed to or will subscribe to. That said, it is a beautiful app that I hope to be able to use someday.
@barnabybones You're absolutely right. We're adding the ability to import newsletters and make unsubscribe more accessible in the near future -- making the “declutter” and “reclaim your inbox” part of our pitch right.
We all may agree on that curated newsletter experience is not great fit for Inbox. We need something different, revolutionary as Slack did to email for specific job.
Small improvements doesn't makes a sense and solves a problem as a whole. There are many dead startups around this problem which committed suicide not because people was not interested on this problem, but mostly because of the issues on the product/market matching. Whats more interesting is that all of the 'solutions' decided to show some improvements on user side, nor curator.
To make it short. We have two sided markets - curators and its users. If we want build something valuable here, and really want to separate Inbox from curated newsletter, we have to do things for both markets.
Users want a better way to get, manage and read curated newsletters, even consume it separated from email(Inbox). Curators want to get emails(for sponsored issues, content ads, banner ads and such).
For me, main task is how to separate email from curated newsletters and build ads opportunities.
End result of revolution looks like this:
There is an App where
- for users:
*UI is standardized(like Medium standardized writing/blogging for mass market)
*Subscribe/unsubscribe without email
*Read later experience.
- for curators
*Tool to build/curate newsletter
*Ads management/analytics - UI has opportunities for ads(sponsored issue, content ads, banner ads and such)
**Email has its costs based on issue/user number, based on App those costs will be vanished and can be used better way.
*** As for App revenues source, success fee (Google ads strategy) seems promising - while curators finding its sponsors separately or App provides for them ads, divide the X%of revenue from them.
Growth strategy? *(hardest job) - Start small. Build start experience for 15-20 email newsletter for specific users, than expand.
Cudos to Kite,
If you want to talk more about growth PM me on Twitter
@alberto_santos@fbwlm
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@alberto_santos please add 2read.today daily email to the list of available feeds. One of my favorites i get in my inbox every morning.
Although I get the urgency to reduce noise and clean up inbox, I don't get the value proposition of this and the other app that was launched here a couple months earlier. I've started unsubscribing my newsletters a few months back and resubscribe them through my RSS reader. Less tracking, more control. Do we really need a special tool for this?
With that said, I could see value if there is an AI powered personal knowledge engine that will cluster similar news and links in my inbox or newsletters so I don't have to mentally filter out duplicate news from Node Weekly from Frontend Weekly. Just my 2c.
@randomor I'd say that we definitely need a special tool for this. Not everyone is willing to do what you did and discovering and subscribing to great newsletters can be really boring, instead of just a tap away. We'll be giving users more control over the next few months -- importing your newsletters and making unsubscribe more accessible are our big concerns.
Fabio and I talked about the long-term future and that's definitely one of our major goals. But well, really long-term. :-)
How do you handle remote-content? For example, I enjoy a Newsletter, but sometimes this Newsletter contains offers/coupons/event-invites in the form of images that I don't care for.
If a Newsletter is in kite is it's remote content automatically in kite too? Or, do I have to tap and open the Newsletter for it's remote-content to then and only then be loaded?
If the answer is tap and open to load.. then I will use kite, otherwise, the data I load is my preference not kites preference. Or, perhaps Gmail must be configured to block remote-content pre-kite use?
Thunderbird blocks remote-content and only shows me text (unicode) to start with, this allows me to quickly scan a Newsletter and realize whether or not I want all of it's content to load - my preference.
While loading images is often fine, they're some Newsletters that I strictly enjoy the text-content of and images aren't needed; These Newsletters only load what I want then and not the fluff on-top that I have no interest in; Thunderbird shows the remote-content in-place to not break layout; The content is represented by a small symbol showing that it was blocked.
In Thunderbird often I can easily tell from the metadata what an image is, and if I really want to see it then in a single click I switch my preferences and all images within the Newsletter load for me.
For these reasons mentioned and for the amount of Newsletters I go through per week I can't see kite being a smart data choice for me if I can't block remote-content; The more data that loads, the more battery power that gets used...
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My solution with newsletter is to dedicate a specific gmail inbox for them so they don't clutter my main inbox
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