Ben Lang

Relate 1.0 - Create the web together

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Relate is the open platform to create together on the web.
Simple, intuitive, and visual environment for rapid web creation.
Speaks native web, HTML/CSS/JS.
Publish or export anywhere. Imports anything from anywhere. Complete openness—no vendor lock-in.

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Gary Fung
Knock knock, the 90s called and wants its Dreamweaver back. Outputting straight html and css (instead of React) is a bug, not a feature.
Eden Vidal
While I have to agree with you about the benefits of this certain framework, I do not believe it will last as the web itself, and you may be surprised how much you can enable humans by simply accessing native and stupid HTML/CSS. Speaking of the 90s, is it you @garyfung at the crowd there? 👉 youtube.com/watch?v=oeqPrUmVz-o 😀 ❤️
Gary Fung
@ishkash_8 the Web's evolution has been with open source, open protocols, higher levels of abstraction. Your argument is like we should write in assembly because that's certainly powerful. In commercial practice, I and teams do not write straight html and JS (jquery?) anymore. We can drop down to optimize/refine raw html and css of course, but large majority of time we don't. So outputting in straight html/css is about as useful as Figma hifi mockups. Which we definitely do use.
Eden Vidal
@garyfung I'm not sure how does the web evolution supports your claims? So we should forget about the lower level because there is a higher level? Maybe we should not care about physics because we got biology already? I am not saying we should or should not use React. I am sure the community romanticizing these solutions too much, and for many use-cases (not yours) plain code is more than enough and more accessible than anything. You may not worry about accessibility as a technical person. I get that.
Gary Fung
@ishkash_8 if your audience is non-technical people, then you are competing with nocode builders like Squarespace, Wix, etc. Vendor lock-in? Not on the high priority list to non technical people who just want to get something accessible working. My 2c anyway. Good luck
KeiraM
Congrats Eden! Really liked the intro video.
W3nzel
Great editing on that video. Makes me want to launch a new website like ASAP! :)