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Nomad List 3.0 - Find the best place to ❤️ live, 👩‍💻 work, and 💃 play

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Nomad List is the biggest crowdsourced database of cities in the world analyzing 250,000+ data points to help you choose where to go next.

It also connects 10,000+ remote workers on a paid online social platform, as well as organizing meetups worldwide to connect digital nomads.

🌍 Find your ❤️ place

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Harry Dry

Normally a team of 20 create something of this quality.

So for just 1 guy to make this is inspiring.

Pros:

A very useful website.

Cons:

Nope

Adil
Congratulations again @levelsio! You mentioned that NL has grown from 25 to 1000+ cities. Did you add them manually or got it from some kind of list of cities database? Or users added cities themselves?
levelsio
Maker
@cheepo2109 It has been 3 years of day-in-day-out manual research adding cities, that means Googling and reading blog posts, analyzing them, making judgements about things like "female safety in Lima, Peru" to normalizing public data sets on "traffic safety in Chattanooga, TN, USA". It's been a giant effort. I hired @adealyvidal @sadokx @rpish @xiufensilver all for different periods to help me add cities. And researched a lot myself too. It sounds stupid to do it manually, but there simply isn't an extensive data set like Nomad List yet. It's all dispersed. It's a Herculean effort.
Nathan Broadbent
@levelsio That sounds like a pretty good example of "do things that don't scale" (http://paulgraham.com/ds.html)
Tamas Torok
Congrats! How did you validate feature ideas from the very beginning?
levelsio
Maker
@torok_tomi I quickly shipped very very basic versions of new features, then checked if they got used. If not, quickly scrapped them again. I've been doing this "throw spaghetti on the wall and see what sticks"-approach for 3 years now and it worked well!
Tamas Torok
@levelsio awesome! keep throwing spaghettis :)
matt kocaj

I'd like the barrier to entry to be a bit lower, as in maybe a monthly price where I pay **each month**. As someone who's trying desperately to find a way to secure a remote gig so I can begin my Nomad journey, I can't easily drop $60 on a product I have no idea of the return value. I'm assuming that there will be folks "on the inside" ready to help me, answer my questions, etc, etc but I don't know yet. How can Nomad List help me get there without this $60 leap?

Pros:

all the info you might want, awesome networking potntial

Cons:

can't get to the really valuable network unless pay $60

levelsio
Maker
Sure I understand. I’ve designed Nomad List so that anyone can use all feature of the site (read-only) without paying. You don’t need to pay for it to be useful. You do need to pay to interact with others (write access). I have no other choice than charge money for these features because it’s a for-profit business, not a charity. A valuable “networking opportunity” will probably be worth more than $60. It could be a $2,000/mo remote job or a $30,000 remote client. YMMV of course. Thanks for the feedback!
Owen Williams
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Kevin Lou

It's absolutely insane that this is all built by one incredible person - Pietz is a demigod

Pros:

An enormous amount of comprehensive info for travelers, remote workers and anyone in between. ✨

Cons:

None 👀

Pizza Yap
That side project I followed years back had become a global business! So hype for you @levelsio and congrats! 🎉
levelsio
Maker
@pizza0502 Thank you Kwang! <3
Taylor Edmiston
Hey Pieter - Congrats on the 3.0 launch and keep up the good work! I've been a fan since v1 and glad to see its evolution. Are you still doing a subscription model? I'm curious to hear how you've handled growth vs monetization with scale. And what you use to measure user engagement with the way you rapidly prototype features? Even though I know we disagree when it comes to approach on languages, frameworks, architecture, etc what you have built is definitely super impressive especially given a "classic" stack underneath. If you could write it again from scratch would you still choose PHP or another language/framework? It would be cool to see a blog post given that it's contrarian to the startup scene today.
levelsio
Maker
@kicksopenminds > Are you still doing a subscription model? I'm curious to hear how you've handled growth vs monetization with scale. Yep! Monthly, annual or lifetime to join the social interactive parts of the site like the chat, forum and travel planner. > Even though I know we disagree when it comes to approach on languages, frameworks, architecture, etc I don't disagree with any approach. I think everyone should use what works for *them*. That's it. And we shouldn't tell people what to use if they're doing fine. That's the devsplaining issue on Twitter noawadays. > If you could write it again from scratch would you still choose PHP or another language/framework I'd definitely use the same. For me dealing with constantly changing frameworks and libraries keeps me behind. The reason I used PHP and vanilla JS in the beginning was to ship fast. The idea was then to use the "hip" tools when it matured. But now I realized this works fine on scale too. Nomad List and Remote OK serve almost 2 million users per month, and it's doing fine. So I think this *is* in fact technology for scale.
Drikerf

I use it to find inspiration about places to go that fits my budget. Scores are a great way to get an overview and hoodmaps is a fun way to see where to stay.

Pros:

Awesome way to get inspiration and information about where to go

Cons:

Can always add more places :)

Kate Harvey

I've recommended Nomad List to so many people -- it's such an awesome resource! I honestly didn't realize it's created by a single person. Now I'm even more impressed :)

Pros:

Great way to find new destinations and uncover more details about the ones already on your "to travel to (or live)" list.

Cons:

Nothing comes to mind.

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