Notion 2.3 - Notions big update, now with Evernote import and web clipper

@nasiscoe O-oh...massive fan of Notion...I scream about it from the rooftops, but because of your post, I've just discovered Coda and fell in love within 3.1 seconds...could be a gamechanger!

@jwelch Love to hear it!

@nasiscoe @jwelch I've just done exactly the same!

@nasiscoe @jwelch @markpcolgan I took a look at Coda and it just seemed overwhelming, might be a bit more powerful than Notion and it looks like you can do more complex tasks but I think it has a steeper learning curve. For me Notion just has the right simplicity/power combination.

@nasiscoe @markpcolgan @nuts_on_ur_chin yep, that's the same conclusion I made after spending a few hours with it.

Yes!!!!!!!! I neeeeeed a read/write API for Notion!!!

I am waiting for this, too. Hopefully not too long away - even Zapier would be good at this point, which I know is on the way.

@jwelch We run our company on Notion. Searching across notes, tasks, roadmap, and our knowledge base all in one place is insanely powerful

@jwelch would be curious to more. Our agency has adopted Notion for our internal wiki but had to abandon all other uses. Returned to Trello and Hubspot and Workflow, but had hoped we could use Notion as the one tool to rule it all. Y'all have a write-up somewhere?

Same as @panoptican. I want to love Notion, but I've found it hard to use for anything more than notes. And at that point, I'd rather just do my notes in GDocs or our PM tool rather than add _another_ tool to our team's day. Please please let Notion fully replace Asana/ActiveCollab (needs time tracking too, ugh!), and Gdocs, and Raindrop.io, and… Oof.

@panoptican Hi Jason. I wondered why you moved back to trello, as notion has most (probably not all) things that trello does (i was a 5+year user of trello before notion)...also, in terms of workflow, again, it does the vast majority of things - and lots more, depending on how you use it. I doubt that (at the moment) that notion could do some of the things that hubspot can do, but with zapier/api later down the line (hopefully), i have no doubt it could do so.

@panoptican @lee_fuhr if you just want notes, then yep, notion is overkill, but if you want to get rid of about 6/7 apps (i reckon thats what we have done), then it's well worth persevering with and testing for more than a few days/weeks. we seem to unlock new features all the time.

@nicolashitz Why? How would you use it, Nicolas?

@nicolashitz This would be awesome - to be able to draw directly into a page.

I respectfully challenge your PM solution comment. You can create relations within Notion that can link a Task table record to multiple projects in a Project table. Notion is very flexible if you take advantage of its relational database features.

I have to second @floringp in that challenge. Notion can do it, but you have to build the databases and relationships yourself. One database for Programs. One for Projects. One for Deliverables. One for Tasks. Every database has a 'Currently With' and a set of Status (selection property) tags for each phase in the house process. I handle intake via forms which get entered into another Database, and tagged in the properties to the Program, Project, Deliverable, or Task as appropriate. Checklists detail the next steps for each team member, and moving things through the system or tasking things out to individual team members is as simple as building into the database a 'People' property. So long as it's in the team's Workspace, it tags the users in their Updates panel of the next thing to do. You can take it a step farther and set up every team member with their own copy of a dashboard view where you set up filters and /Create link to existing database so that they get a list populating there of everything assigned to them currently. Then the team plays "keep away" by trying to finish their action items and give it to the next person in the chain, which is written right into the template of the job folders. You can easily do this. It just takes a little grunt work and some planning on the Process side to build out the tools and databases in the way that makes the most sense for how your team works. It doesn't force you into a pattern out-of-the-box, it just gives you the tools to be able to build out the system for what your specific team needs and is willing to use. Now, if you have an unmotivated or an older team not as digitally savvy or willing to own the whole process overall, then Notion is going to be a tough sell. But my team is younger, very digital, and test users all universally fall in love with the simplicity of the interface and immediately begin building out tools of their own for personal use, even before being introduced to the core databases of the business as a whole. I've wrangled Art Buying, Creative brainstorming, production, web dev, integrated marketing, marketing optimization, SEO, and provided a more collaborative tool than email, plus a common Meeting Notes database with relational fields so that anyone can take Meeting notes in the database by making a new entry, and just tag the project, so they show up associated with the template of the Job jackets. Yeah, it takes a little work to set up. But once set up, it should run for a while without issue. Revisit Notion, please. You missed the forest for the trees.